No. 12 Ship Saw

 

Ship-point Handsaws  

No. 7 ship point handsaw

Looks like a used-up saw, doesn't it? It was actually intended to be narrow when it was made. The No. 7 ship pattern or ship point saw was 26 inches long, 6-3/4 inches wide at the heel and 1-1/2 inches at the toe, about an inch narrower than the regular saw. Granted, this one is narrower than that because it's been sharpened many times, but that was seen as an advantage for boat builders, who needed their saws to form mild curves and varying-beveled angles within a single cut. This is not practical with a handsaw that is 2-1/2 inches wide at the toe. Note that most saws you find in this condition were not ship saws when they started out. The etch makes the saw interesting to a collector, but don't expect to pay more for just any old saw that's been sharpened to within an inch of its life.


No. 7  1/2 Ship Saw Etch No. 7  1/2 Ship Saw Handle
Disston started making ship saws in 1848. The No. 12 ship saw at the top of the page was made in the 1920's. It features a mahogany handle, has no mention of ship saw on the etch, and it never had a nib on the blade. There was also a No. 7½ model, shown here. It was a pruning saw, according to the 1914-1923 catalogs in which the saw appeared. The hand hole was enlarged to accommodate a gloved hand. You could trim branches from a tree at sea, I suppose. No. 7  1/2 Ship Saw

In the early 20th century, the Disston catalogs featured the No. 7, 12, 16, D-8, and D-100 saws in ship point versions. The D-8 and D-100's were slightly narrower than the No. 7, only 6 inches at the heel. The No. 16 was 6-1/2 inches. Disston continued the ship point concept when the company began re-designing its entire line of saws in 1927, coming out with the Lightweight models. They were about the same width as the saws previously sold as ship-points, and were referred to by both names in advertising.

Ship point No. 7 etch

After the complete overhaul of the Disston handsaw line in 1928, no saws were marketed as ship saws; they were referred to as Lightweight saws only. Although they were not labeled as such, the D-20 and D-23 saws were, in essence, ship saws. They were much narrower than the other Disston handsaws when they were introduced in 1911. Narrower saws were more profitable than the older design. The narrower saw plate used at least 20% less steel, and the retail price of a Lightweight saw was equal to that of the same model in the regular width.

Not a ship point
This is an example of what you should not pay extra to own. It's not a ship saw.



Information taken from Disston 1891 catalog:

1891 illustration

 



Information taken from Disston 1911 catalog:
[Note: The product line was its broadest at this time. Points per inch are not specified so it may be safe to assume the customer could special order any practical number of points on a saw.]

1911 illustration

 



Information taken from Disston 1918 catalog, 3rd Ed. pub. 1923:

1918 illustration

 




Information taken from Disston 1927 brochure
Disston Saw, Tool, and File Book:


No 7 1927 lightweight catalog illustration
No. 7 Lightweight (Ship) Pattern
Many saw users who like the features of the No. 7 wide-blade saw but who prefer a lighter blade are users of this saw. The blade measures 6 3/4 inches at the butt and 1 1/2 inches at the point. It is made of the same steel and has the same finish as the wide-blade No. 7. Made in lengths of 24 and 26 inches cross-cut teeth and 24 and 26 inches rip teeth.

No. 12 lightweight 1927 catalog illustration
No. 12 Lightweight (Ship) Pattern

This saw is made of the same material as the wide-blade No. 12 and also is taper ground extra-thin for clearance. The narrow blade which measures 6 3/4 inches at the butt and 1½ inches at the point makes it a favorite with saw users who prefer a Lightweight (ship) pattern saw. This saw, in the Lightweight pattern, is a favorite with mechanics and all who want a good tool. The extra tempered blade holds its cutting edge for a long time. In cross-cut teeth 24 inches and 26 inches. Rip: 24 in. and 26 in.

No. 16 lightweight 1927 catalog illustration
No. 16 Lightweight (Ship) Pattern
This is another straight-back Disston Lightweight (Ship) Pattern Saw that is becoming very popular. Having less weight and less width to the blade than the wide-blade saws it is preferred by many saw users who do not have much heavy sawing. It is made of the same material as the wide-blade No. 16. Made in lengths of 26 inches cross-cut teeth and 26 inches rip teeth.

D-8 1927 lightweight catalog illustration
D-8 Lightweight (Ship) Pattern
This is a popular saw with men working in lighter work who prefer a skew-back saw with less weight and less width to the blade. It has the same features and made of the same material as the wide-blade D-8. It is, however, a lighter saw and on many jobs easier to use. Made in lengths of 26 inches cross-cut teeth and 26 inches rip teeth.


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